6.5 Grendel, dieing on the vine?

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There has been a lot of noise and confusion around the 6.5 Grendel® and the similar cartridges that have sprung up around it. Two have surfaced that bear a closer look. The 6.5 BPC has become “the” bolt action chambering that can safely fire Grendel ammo. The differences in the chamber dimensions are minor; the 6.5 BPC was developed by Jim Borden and Dr. Louis Palmisano, the latter of PPC fame. The newest entry into this race is the 264 LBC-AR™ from Les Bear Custom, as the name implies this

Headstamped brass by Hornady

Headstamped brass by Hornady

chambering is optimized for the AR platform. The biggest difference between these variations is that fact that the latter two are open use, in other words, anyone can chamber for them, like any factory cartridge.

Some sources call the BPC and the LBC cartridges “improved”. When you compare the drawings this is improved label is pretty hard to understand. There is little difference aside from the tolerances for case expansion, and the throat design. They do have a 30 degree shoulder verses a 28 degree shoulder on the Grendel, however, this will not provide any noticeable change in ballistics as the volume of the case is virtually unchanged. In fact, 2 degrees is barely outside the tolerance limits that most tool makers offer.

Ammo for the 264 LBC-AR

Ammo for the 264 LBC-AR

Black Hills Ammunition has new loads being built exclusively for Les Baer Custom at his request and with his assistance in load development. The .264 LBC-AR is loaded with a 123-grain Hornady A-Max bullet is available exclusively from Les Baer Custom. It’s designed for use in Les Baer Custom rifles as well as rifles of other manufacturers, and will also perform in rifles chambered for the 6.5 Grendel cartridge. The brass is produced by Hornady and head stamped .264 LBC-AR. Naturally this brass could be sized in a 6.5 BPC die and used for rifles so chambered.

What’s New form Clymer, 2010

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Clymer Reamers announced at the 2010 Shot Show in Las Vegas that they would soon be shipping piloted chamber reamers that match up to the “West Coast” pattern.  They are also moving to the screw attachment for these reamers as apposed to the old spring clip style retainers.

 

Todd Wilms, Owner of Clymer is clearly proud of his products and rightfully so.  When he purchased the company almost five years he set about the work of moving the company to a new facility, rebuilding and replacing machines and in short looking at the entire operation with an eye toward improving the products they make.

Ackley Headspace, do it right!

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Headspace for Ackley Improved cases should be a no-brainer. Ackley set up probably the simplest headspace system for a line of wildcats that any gunsmith ever devised.

Rimless or Rebated Improved Chambers…

Ackley Improved cartridges in this category seem to receive the most abuse at the hands of hobbyists and local gunsmiths who do not understand the proper headspace of Ackley Improved designs. P.O. Ackley did establish specific headspace dimensions for all his Improved case designs. The process is extremely simple and for this reason alone folks seem to think they need to make it more complex. Keep it simple.

The most important innovation that Ackley brought to the “improved” concept was with regard to bottleneck rimless cases. He chose the simplest of mechanical solutions to insuring that his improved cases would safely fire factory loads. He shortened the chamber by .004” (4/1000 of an inch). Because the factory case is then a crush fit between the bolt face and the junction of the neck and shoulder, proper headspace is insured. This is why Ackley prescribes setting the barrel back on such cases. You will note that if you follow these simple guidelines there is no confusion about the headspace measurements for “Ackley Improved” designs in rimless or rebated cases.

Some confusion seems to arise out of this headspace issue. Folks get confuse between the set up for a rimless bottleneck case and a rimmed or belted case when discussing ‘Improved” chamberings. Rimless and rebated cases are the case designs which always require a barrel set back to be properly headspaced. As memtioned in the paragraph above headspace on an Ackley Improved rimless or rebated designs is .004” shorter than standard. The shorter headspace means you have no choice but to set the barrel back if you want correct headspace.

There are special Ackley, go-gauges, they have the same shoulder angle as the parent case but they are shorter. This ingenious method effectively controls headspace with factory cartridges in the new larger, ‘Improved’ chamber. The factory cartridge or parent go-gauge becomes the no-go for the new chamber. This system works because the parent go-gauge is .004” longer than the Ackley gauge, exactly the same as the difference between the parent go-gauge and no-go gauge. Example: 30-06 Ackley Improved go-gauge is used with the standard 30-06 go-gauge as the no-go gauge.

The only place the factory case will touch in the new chamber that matters is the bolt face and the junction of the neck and shoulder on the case. It will actually slightly crush the case shoulder when you close the bolt on the factory round. If you eject such a case unfired you will normally see a shinny area on the shoulder where the case was crushed just a little. This crush fit maintains proper headspace during the fire-forming process.

Chambering an Improved Rimmed Case…

Rimmed cases are the easiest of all Improved or wildcat cases to chamber for. The rim is the headspace control feature on these cases. The rim is trapped between the bolt face and the rim cut in the back of the barrel. So if the rim is headspaced correctly you can have almost any shape of case fire-formed beyond the rim, so long as it will extract. The action of the firearm is not sentient; it does not care what the chamber looks like. So rimmed cases utilize standard headspace gauges for the caliber, no Ackley gauges needed.

There is no need to set the barrel back on a rimmed cartridge when you convert it to an Improved design! Why? Because the rim controls headspace, the fact that the shoulder will be moved forward and the neck shortened has exactly NO effect on headspace. Reamers for improved cases normally have the rim cutter integral to their design. Simply paint the rim cut in the barrel with machinists blue, when the rim cutter gets close to this material just watch close, as soon as it scratches the material, stop reaming. Utilizing this method there is no danger of changing the headspace of the gun in the process of ‘Improving’ the chamber.

Rimmed cases headspace on the rim of the case only, ‘Improved’ cases of the rimmed variety often incorporate a shorter neck, thus the shoulder is moved forward to increase capacity, this is combined with increased shoulder diameter. Often rimmed cases benefit the most from an ‘Improved’ design, simply because they gain a much higher percentage of case capacity.

Chambering an Improved Belted Chamber…

What was said of rimmed cases above is also true of belted cases. Belted designs headspace on the belt much the same way rimmed cases headspace on the rim. The distance between the bolt face and the belt cut in the barrel is the headspace for these cartridges. Like the rimmed designs, ‘Improved’ belted cases use the standard headspace gauges, no Ackley gauges.

While it is possible to use machinist blue as suggested with the rimmed case, you will quickly find that it is much harder to determine if the machinist blue has been scratched, there is simply much less area to view. For this reason it is a good idea to set the barrel back when doing a belted magnum improved case. If the barrel is slick with no sight holes drilled in it you can set it back .004” so that that bolt will not close on the go gauge. Then rechamber with the Improved reamer until the go gauge will allow the bolt to close normally.

Budget Conscious Wildcatting

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One of the objections to wildcatting that I hear from time to time is the cost.  If you had to build a rifle for every caliber you tried out it could be a very expensive proposition.  There is a pretty simple way to cut this cost and allow for many more excursions into the realm of wildcat cartridges.  Today’s switch barrel single shots are a great way to try out that cartridge that you have always been curious about or test out your own design.

                       

There are entire Internet forums devoted to these various single shot rifles and pistols.  One of the biggest is www.go2gbo.com (Gray Beard Outdoors).  The possibilities are limited more by imagination than anything else.  All you do is order in the gun or the barrel you need as the parent for your new caliber.

 

Now that your thinking about this, just grab a good reloading manual that lists the cartridge your interested in, also “Cartridges of the World” By Frank C. Barnes or “The Handloader’s Manual of Cartridge Conversions” by Donnelly & Towsley are both great sources of cartridge information and dimensions.  Just look up the dimensions for the cartridge you want and compare it to the original chamber dimensions, this will tell you if your project is feasible.  It’s the same process you would use if you were having an old barrel rechambered on a bolt gun or Ruger #1 as well.  Reamer makers will also provide chamber drawings for calibers that are not proprietary.

Ideas for a caliber change with just a rechamber.

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Rechamber Choices without a Barrel Set-Back

17 Remington:

22 Hornet to:

218 Bee:

222 Remington

223 Remington:

17/22-250

22 K-Hornet
219 Donaldson Wasp
219 Zipper
225 Winchester
22 Jet
22/30-30
22/30-30 Ackley
223 Ackley
220 Swift
220 Swift Ackley

218 Mashburn Bee
219 Donaldson Wasp

219 Zipper
225 Winchester

 

 

 

 

222 Remington Mag
222 Rem Mag Ackley
223 Ackley Improved

222 Remington Mag
222 Rem. Mag Ackley 
22-250 Ackley 
220 Swift
220 Swift Ackley

22-250 Rem:

6mm Rem.:

6.8 Rem. SPC:

7-30 Waters:

7mm-08:

22 Cheetah Mark I
22 Cheetah Mark II
22-243 Middlestead
224 TTH
220 Jaybird
22-284 Winchester

 

6mm-06
6mm-06 Ackley
240 Gibbs

 

270×57 Mauser
270 Win. Ackley

 

 

7×65R

 

7×57 Ackley
284 Winchester
280 Rem Ackley

280 Remington:

30-30 Win. :

308 Win. :

30-06:

35 Remington:

 

 

7mm/300 Winchester

 

30-30 Ackley
30-40 Krag

 

30-284
30-06 Ackley 
30 Gibbs

 

30 Gibbs
 

 

358×57 Improved
35 Whelen
35 Whelen Improved
35 Brown Whelen

35 Whelen:

375 Win. :

375 JDJ:

44 Rem Mag:

45-70 to:

 

35 Brown/Whelen

 

375/348 Improved
375/444 Marlin

 

376 Steyr
375/348 Improved

 

445 Super Mag.
444 Marlin

45-90
45-110
45-120
450 Alaskan

Guest Blog by Bob Baker of Freedom Arms, Wildcat 224-32FA

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The author with Freedom Arms new single shot, it will become available later this year.

The author with Freedom Arms new single shot, it will become available later this year.

Following is information, including loading data, for the 224-32 FA cartridge. This information and loading data is only applicable to firearms manufactured by Freedom Arms, Inc. for the 224-32 FA. 

 

 

Please proceed with caution. Make the shooting sports safe and enjoyable for all of those that choose to participate in this fascinating and exciting sport. As always, make sure the proper safety gear is being used when loading ammunition or shooting firearms. Check our web site (www.freedomarms.com) periodically for updates to the following data.

The 224-32 FA is a proprietary cartridge of Freedom Arms, Inc. which utilizes the 327 Federal case. The goal in designing this cartridge was to get a high performance .22 centerfire cartridge that would work in a revolver. This cartridge was designed with small critters in mind but still being able to handle up to coyotes at fairly long ranges. As of this writing the 224-32 FA is only available for hand forming and loading, in ‘Other words, there is no factory ammunition available. Following are a few tips and cautions for the experienced reloader on loading the 224-32 FA.

The 224-32 FA case is very simple to make. Basically just lube the 327 Federal case and run it into the properly adjusted sizing/forming die, then trim the case to 1.115 to l.120 overall length. The sizing/forming die should be adjusted to set the headspace at .005 to .010. This cartridge headspaces off the shoulder, not the rim. This is easily checked by inserting a formed and trimmed case into a chamber, rotate the cylinder around so the case head shows at the top of the loading gate cutout in the receiver, then use a .005 shim as a go gage and a .010 shim as a no go gage between the case head and firewall, If forming primed cases, care must be taken to not get lube inside the case. Annealing is not required or even suggested as annealing will cause premature case sticking when fired.

After fireforming the case it can still take 2 to 4 additional firings (depending on load used) before the case is fully formed. Therefore be careful using the top loads before the cases are fully formed as case capacity will be slightly less which will cause higher pressure. Due to this it is important to keep the cases in batches according to how many times the cases have been fired.

Case life has shown to be good. You may loose an occasional case when forming but the majority of cases will last through at least ten firings. Usually, when using the upper end loads the primer pockets will stretch enough by the time ten to fifteen shots have been fired that the cases should be discarded. Before loading the cases check for neck cracks. Also, if you dont feel sufficient resistance when seating a new primer the case should be discarded. If you experience case separation close to the head it is due to too much headspace, because your die is set so that it bumps the shoulder too far back.  Simply back the die off enough to correct headspace.

Bullets

At this time only load data for the 40 gr. bullets have been provided as this weight seems to give the best performance. Both the Sierra Blitz King and Homady V-Max have performed well in this cartridge.

Powder

So far the two best powders for the 224-32 FA have been IMR4227 and AA1680. The IMR4227 isn’t as temperature sensitive. The AA1680 has a slower burn rate which will give more trouble free results as well as better accuracy. This cartridge has a small case capacity so be precise on weighing out the powder. A few tenths of a grain variance in a case that only holds 10 to 12 grains is a lot of variance.

Primer

The 224-32 FA is setup to use a small pistol primer. This primer has shown to provide reliable and consistent ignition of the powder. Both WSP and CCI 500 primers were tested and gave similar results. As always, care must be taken to seat the primer below the case head to prevent recoil from firing a cartridge that is not aligned with the barrel.

The 327 Federal cases come primed with the Federal 205 primer which is a small rifle primer. These primers can be used for firing forming as long as the reduced powder charge shown below is used. Small rifle primers should not be used for your regular loads as they provide too much ignition, which will cause premature rotational binding of the cylinder.

Loading Dies

Loading dies designed specifically for the 224-32FA are available from Freedom Arms. Setting the sizing/form die as described above is important. Form and trim the cases one at a time until you have the proper headspace. This should be checked each time you resize the cases for loading.

224-34FA

 

 

 

 

 

 

Loading recommendations for the Freedom Arms 224-32 FA. 

                   

Bullet Diameter:                                     .224”

Primer Size:                                          Small Pistol

Case Trim Length:                                     1.115”

Maximum Case Length:                         1.120”

Maximum Cartridge Length:                         1.600”

Shell Holder:                                         #23 RCBS

All velocities are based on a Model 97 with 10 inch barrel.  Expect a reduction of approximately 100 fps between the standard barrel lengths.  Barrel forcing cone life is expected to be 3,000 to 5,000 rounds depending on loads used.  Keep cartridges and chambers clean and dry when firing, otherwise case set back and cylinder rotational binding will occur.

 

Fireform Loads

 

 

 

 

40 gr. Blitz King or V-Max

Starting Load

Fps

Max. Load

Fps

IMR4227

9.5

1830

10

1940

AA 1680

12

1900

12.5

2020

Standard Loads

 

 

 

 

40 gr. Blitz King or V-Max

Starting Load

Fps

Max. Load

Fps

IMR4227

10

1900

12

2270

AA 1680

12.5

1965

14.5

2295

Starting standard loads assume the case has only been fireformed.

Max Standard loads assume the case has been fired a few times.

Load and shoot small batches of these cartridges until you are sure you have the process and loads down correctly. Pulling these small bullets can be a pain in the butt if the load is improper.

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Ammunition Accountability Legislation

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Ammunition Accountability Legislation… Sounds like a good idea right?   Like most anti-gun laws the name is misleading.  The plan is to make guns illegal through the back door.  In the summer of 2008 when the Heller v. Washington D.C. decision was handed down by the Supreme Court the liberals knew they had to take a new route because they have lost on the issue of the Second Amendment, and private ownership.

Remember how Obama said that he wasn’t going to take your guns?  Well, it seems that his allies in the anti-gun world have no problem with taking your ammo! The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture a data base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what calibers. If  it passes nobody can sell any ammunition afterwards unless the ammunition is coded.

Any privately held unencoded ammunition must be destroyed as a part of this proposed law. (Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more!  That is just to start, how long do you think it will take for that tax to rise to the point that plinking and soon hunting are simply too expensive for the average person to participate in.  If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!

Reloading and therfore wildcatting would be a thing of the past.  You will not be able to buy bullets, cases, primers, powder.  All components will be gone because they would violate this law.  If you love reloading, if you love shooting, if you like wildcats, this is a death nail to your sport!

This legislation was active in 18 state legislatures in 2008 and will be reintroduced in 2009, call you state legislators and tell them to fight this bill when it pops up, don’t even let it out of committee!  The Following states considered this bill in 2008; Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.

To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to: http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm

Explanation of the technology: http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Technology.htm

30 Remington AR (30 AR)

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Remington will offer 3 loadings to introduce this new cartridge.
Remington will offer 3 loadings to introduce this new cartridge.

Remington announced at the Shot Show 2009 that it would introduce a new cartridge for it’s AR platform. 

This cartridge is a 30 caliber on a shortened version of the 284 Winchester case, so it has a slightly rebated rim.  The rim diameter will be the same as a 308 or 30-06 as it appears now.  When asked about introduction a Remington Rep stated that the goal to have guns and ammo in stores is June of 2009.

It’s hard to come up with a new idea for a cartridge and even though Remington is in new territory here it is not unprecedented.  Frank C. Barnes, author of “Cartridges of the World” came up with the 308×1.5″ in the 1960’s.  This concept became the BR series of cartridges.  Remington has simply come up with a way to rework the BR concept to work in an AR-15 platform.  The advantage of the 30 AR is the increased case capacity allowed by the 284 case design.  By the way, the 450 Bushmaster is the same basic case based on preliminary information.

Factory load data for this short case indicate a 125 grain bullet at 2800 fps at the muzzle of a 24″ barrel.  It looks like case capacity will fall about half way between the 308×1.5″ and the 308 Winchester.  I have already started drawing my wildcats on this case.  Lets see what you guys can come up with?

.338 Xtreme (338 XT)

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If your interest is in long range shooting the 338 Xtreme would probably interest you.  I spotted this cartridge at the Shot Show in the American Tactical Imports (ATI) booth.  With an eye toward the market for long range accurate rifles, the guys at Xtreme decided to build a new cartridge with the idea of maximum velocity, and therefore flat trajectory.  A 266 grain bullet design with a Secant Ogive and boattail design was selected to maximize the terminal ballistics of this cartridge.

Compared to the 338 Lapua, the 338 XT produces velocity of almost 400 more fps.   That translates into nearly an additional ton of energy over the Lapua as well as more than 100 inches LESSdrop at 1000 yards.   Combining this cartridge with Lapua’s new 300 grain Scenar bullet would make an impressive combination.

Xtreme Machine is also building rifles for this cartridge.  Barrels are available in 26 or 30″ length.  Single shot and repeaters available, the repeater uses a 7 round detachable box magazine.  Trigger is adjustable, comes set at 2-2.5 lbs.  Overall length of the rifle is 49″ and the weight is approximately 20 Lbs.  A 40 MOA Picatinny rail is included with the rifle.  International Cartridge Company is loading ammo for the 338 XT wit the 266 grain bullet described here.  An interesting package.

Shot Show 2009, Orlando Florida

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OK, Shot Show is just a couple of weeks away now.  We will be attending the show and will look for reloading tools, bullets, dies, and of course anything that might be of interest to the wildcatter.

Watch here for updates during the Shot Show.